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T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:30 am
by LexPaul
My left side cylinder was acting like it was misfiring just a bit, some additional smoke but not much. I changed the plug and open up the left side. I found a thin film of oil/residue in the points area (I don't think this is unusual or is it). I did note that there is no gasket on this side cover, which somehow got passed me before. I dabbed it off and ran a piece of paper between the points to clean them. When I fired it up, the right side did not start and now I can't get it to kick over. When I kick it, the motor acts sorta like it's flooded on right side, it coughs and wheezes and kicks back. Battery is charged, I am getting spark. Any suggestions on how to get this one running again. Funny thing, last month I would have taken this bike to California it was so dependable :)

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Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:29 am
by Suzukidave
My first guess would be go back to the points side and check it over again , make sure its all connected up and open the points contacts to make sure a shred of paper didnt stick there . You didnt happen to have left the petcock on prime as that can possibly flood the engine ? Oh .. nice looking 500 too :up:

Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:46 am
by jabcb
+1 on the nice T500.

What coating do you have on your chambers?

Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:18 am
by LexPaul
jabcb wrote:+1 on the nice T500.

What coating do you have on your chambers?

That is the Nickle coating

Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:20 am
by LexPaul
Suzukidave wrote:My first guess would be go back to the points side and check it over again , make sure its all connected up and open the points contacts to make sure a shred of paper didnt stick there . You didnt happen to have left the petcock on prime as that can possibly flood the engine ? Oh .. nice looking 500 too :up:

Yes, I did check that and everything seems to be set up and ready, it just won't start.

Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:22 am
by LexPaul
When dealing with a flooded motor, is it better to leave the throttle and choke alone? Or, should I open the throttle up all the way and kick?

Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:33 am
by tz375
Remove plugs and kick it over fast to clear any surplus fuel (throttle wide open)

Then replace the plugs, throttle wide open, no choke and kick with the ignition on.

With throttle wide open, gas velocity is so low that it does not pull in any more fuel. When it fires, hold teh throttle open until revs pick up and slowly back it down

Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:32 pm
by Suzukidave
If you can get some help try a push start .

Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:57 pm
by LexPaul
I have to confess, I had the plug wires crossed. I checked that, I thought, but when I got down on the ground and watch the sparks coming off the points, I realized I had them crossed. After that, I kicked it 3 times and she fired right up. Uggg, thanks for all your support,,,

Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:06 pm
by Suzukidave
Glad you got it fixed .. i wouldnt have guessed that one :roll:

Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:49 am
by yeadon_m
I did that once, indirectly, on a 550. The points wires don't have a block connector but bullets. Poor attention coupled to low light and vision that isn't what it once was allowed me to swap two bullets. Frustrating hunt, a sudden aha, 3 kicks (and embarrassment) and off it went again :-))
Mike

Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:03 am
by Craig380
And who hasn't spent 5 minutes jumping on the kickstarter and cursing, only to find that the killswitch is in the OFF position? :oops:

Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:36 am
by jabcb
Some of the T-series twins have the coils with the HT leads facing the front & others facing the rear.
(The official Suzuki pics on suzukicycles.org shows both.)

In one coil orientation the HT leads are crossed & the other they are not.
Its an easy mistake to make if you have a few twins.



Another easy mistake is to forget to connect the battery.
Some of the twins will start easily & run ok without the battery.

The T250/T350 use the battery as the voltage regulator, so you learn of your mistake when the lights burn out.

The T500 has a voltage regulator but I don't know if it has enough capacity to protect the lights if the battery is disconnected.

Re: T500 with Jemco Chambers

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:37 am
by diamondj
Beautiful 70 T500! Glad you got it sorted.

Jim