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Help - identify this transmission part that isn't there
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:20 am
by prothed
I'm in the process of rebuilding a T500 engine from a 'barn find' bike which had been imaginatively put together by a previous owner...
On the right hand side is a bearing retainer (the c-shaped piece held by a screw at each end) which, er, retains the roller bearing on the end of the drive shaft.
See first pic.
Now, I was sure that there should be a cover or blanking plate under the retainer - and there is a picture in the workshop manual which shows such a cover in place, see second pic.
The mystery is that I cannot identify this part in the parts books that I have, and so can't order a replacement
Can anyone i.d. this part for me?
Thanks.
Re: Help - identify this transmission part that isn't there
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:54 am
by Skaal-tel
hmm
looks like the bushing for the bearing?
http://www.ozebook.com/compendium/T500parts/image16.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
item 22?
Re: Help - identify this transmission part that isn't there
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:03 am
by Vintageman
hmm,
That manual picture looks like there is something. I have only split cases on T500 few times but don't recall that cap. It I don't think once that high up in case it matters... If it did it would be a seal not just a cap... wouldn't it?
I have a spare engine in storage I believe is original if no on4 else chimes in. I could pull the cover if you are torn on this or know one else replies definitively. I don't see it in parts either. He a pic I found when google "T500 Engine" It has no cap I can see
https://www.google.com/search?q=suzuki+ ... sFQnsgmRgM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Help - identify this transmission part that isn't there
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:35 pm
by prothed
Thank you for the fast replies.
After looking at those pictures I have an idea - but I don't like it...
Below is a closer view of my engine.
I am thinking that the bearing bush (item 22) is there, but it is the wrong way round, with the lip on the inside rather than the outside - and I didn't notice...
if so, then it's an easy fix, but

, because I have to split the cases again.
Still doesn't explain the 'missing' seal - maybe they were only on the early models or something?
Any more ideas or insights welcome!
Re: Help - identify this transmission part that isn't there
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:57 pm
by Jimroid
Are those two holes tapped on your motor? I can't tell from your picture. Pretty sure my '75 motor has the plate and two screw.
Re: Help - identify this transmission part that isn't there
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:16 pm
by Jimroid
Is this it?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-T500-GT5 ... 1071210670" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Help - identify this transmission part that isn't there
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:18 pm
by Vintageman
yes i think it is backwards too. Stick out too far and oil groves should be inside case not under retainer.
I don't recall any cap or seal on the twins (T500/T350/GT250/T305).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Suzuki-GT50 ... SA&vxp=mtr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Help - identify this transmission part - Solved
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:29 am
by prothed
I split the cases and, yes, the bearing bush was fitted backwards. Credits to Skaal-tel and Vintageman.

Duhhh to me.
The seal (?) over the bearing shown in the Haynes manual is still a mystery though.
The bearing bush has a dowel to locate it in the case, so it cant move, so the bearing retainer (the c-shaped one) appears redundant?
I can't see anything like it in either the early T500 or later GT500 parts books, so who knows...