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1979 PE175N rebuilds.........
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:46 am
by Barry S.
These are the 2 PE175's I have, the complete bike needs a rod and crank bearings, it was sunk under water during a race and wore it out. One of the parts bikes had a parts motor that has a good cylinder and piston that will probably be used on this motor when I go thru it.
This is one of the parts bikes that I have stripped and repainted with epoxy paint, rebuilt the forks with new seals and fork boots, this is the one the '80 model rebuilt motor I have is going in. It will need a carb and a set of fenders and tires, 2 bike rebuilds at once, easy, right?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:02 am
by rngdng
Shoot yeah. I have my H1 and my XL70 apart right now!
Lane
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:15 pm
by Barry S.
Lane, where did you get the yellow paint for you 400, do you think it would stay on the plastic fenders and side panels? Those are a different plastic than modern fenders, more rigid, I think it waould stick pretty good, but not on the gas tank, it would rub off from my legs riding on it. Reproduction ones are pricy, DC plastic makes them, I may have to buy a set for the other bike.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:04 pm
by rngdng
The yellow I used was Plasticote, bight yellow enamel. It stuck fine to the fiberglass. Of course, I can't find it anywhere anymore...... and that sucks.
Our local Suzuki dealer carries Suzuki yellow and Yamaha yellow in spray cans.
Lane
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:12 pm
by cyclebuster
local store has a big supply of plastikote, got a can number?
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:42 am
by rngdng
cyclebuster wrote:local store has a big supply of plastikote, got a can number?
Really? I can't find it around here anymore. Is it a local store or a chain?
I'll try to find out today. Gotta go by my storage unit.
The name of it is "Brite Yellow" Enamel. I put their engine clear over it, and it's slick.
Lane
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:31 pm
by Barry S.
You never know what you will find when you tear down an old motor. I tore down the PE175N motor, #109572
to put a new rod,seals and bearings in and was about to put the clutch
basket back in but I noticed it was grooved pretty badly. I have a
parts motor, # 112302 so I pulled the basket out of it, looks way
better. Put it in but the clutch gear didn't engage the primary gear at
all. 109572 had a 17/63 gear and 112302 had 21/58, which is correct.
Looks like the motor had a 125 clutch put in it with different ratios.
Was this done for a reason like a different ratio or just some back
yard mechanic swapping parts. Wouldn't it gear the motor down and make
it turn faster ? I'll put the correct one in, it was in better shape
anyway.
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:19 pm
by rngdng
It may have been a racing trick. On RD 350s racers will sometimes use the RD250 bottom end with 350 jugs because of the lower gear ratios. Just a guess.
Lane
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:44 pm
by Barry S.
I got about one running, I though about using paint stripper on the motor but it didn't work too well on the cylinder & head, that old black paint is tough. I may go back and touch up the motor paint later. Boy, is this thing loud, Suzuki only put a spark arrestor on them, the silencer is only a turbin, no packing or preforated core at all.

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:50 pm
by Barry S.
That old plastic gets a white film on it that has to be scrapped or sanded off, you wouldn't believe how much better some of the stuff can be made to look. A little wet sanding and polishing works wonders, I got another tank that's a mess

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:01 pm
by rngdng
You can touch-up paint the engine anytime. Looks good to me.
Lane
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:50 pm
by Barry S.
Here's the other one I finally finished, got it together and it wouldn't run, no spark. I found a CDI black box on ebay and got it in today, fired right up. I put an original headlight on the one I sold and kept this one for this bike, the front fender is not the correct one, it's for a mid 90's RM, the rear fender is DC Plastic's repo. I kept the Progressive shocks too.
This is a Pro Circuit silencer for a Honda CR125, I cut it to where it would fit and took it to work and had a boy weld it.
