I found a GT750 yesterday on Craigslist

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Re: I found a GT750 yesterday on Craigslist

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Thanks for all the help guys, this is exactly what I was hoping for.

Coyote wrote:First off, don't automatically assume the crank seals are bad. I bought a 77 GT750 that sat idle in a chicken coop for 25 years. The crank seals were fine.
For the wiring, there are 2 harnesses. Forward and rear. Paul Miller generally has both. They are pricy, but worth every penny. I bought mine from him. Supple, soft and correct.
For flushing the oil lines, buy a cheap pump type oil can. Remove the pump from the bike. Remove the six bolts that retain the banjo fittings from the block. Now fill your cheapo oil can with plain old rubbing alcohol. If necessary, grind the tip of the oil can so it fits in the tiny hole in the oil line manifold NO COMPRESSED AIR! It will destroy the check valves. Just pump alcohol through the lines from the manifold end several times. Now stick all six banjo fittings (one at a time) in your mouth and try to blow back through them.. No air should pass in that direction. If it does, the check valve is stuck open and needs further attention.
As a final test, dump the alcohol out of the can and fill it with 2 stroke injection oil. Pump all six lines full of the oil and hang the manifold on a nail. Place a clean rag on the floor beneath it. Wait 24 hours and check. All lines should still be full and none has leaked out onto the rag. If one or more has drained out, that check valve is still stuck open.

2 questions. How many miles on the clock? Was the bike stored indoors or out?
It has 28189 miles and was stored indoors, is that bad mileage?

Turns over just fine.

Thank you for the details on the oil pump.
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Re: I found a GT750 yesterday on Craigslist

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It has 28189 miles and was stored indoors, is that bad mileage?
No. Another member here that hasn't posted in a while, Iron Butt Alan put 150,000 on his before it needed a rebuild.
Mine only had 10,000 on it and the motor was stuck. The reason for new harnesses was the PO had a fairing and bags on it The tail light went with the bags and the head light went with the fairing. Much of the wiring had been botched and scrambled for the accessory pieces. It was however a really good start for $300.00.

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You don't see this mentioned much on this site, but its very common with Kaw triples. Sometimes the oil injection check valves will leak over time allowing the crankcases to partially fill with oil. When the bike is first started it will run OK till the oil gets warm, and diluted by the gas, then a large volume is sucked into the chamber, and it hydrolocks. It can also be caused by a leaking carb float that allows fuel to puddle in the case. Neither is compressible. And that cylinder doesn't actually have to be firing for this to occur. When it locks the rod usually gets bent.
If you remove the SRIS valves near the bottom front of the case you can drain anything that has accumulated in there.
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Just went through my spare wiring and unfortunately what I have has been pretty well thrashed by PO's. Splicing and butt connectors galore so I'd look elsewhere.
No really... it's supposed to smoke.

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Madbuffalo wrote:Just went through my spare wiring and unfortunately what I have has been pretty well thrashed by PO's. Splicing and butt connectors galore so I'd look elsewhere.
Thanks for looking anyway, I don't mean to take up your time.

How about these guys?

http://knkcycles.com/Suzuki-GT750-Le-Mans.htm



The problem I'm having is the two wires that run to the head light (I guess one is for the gear indicator). Would they be included in the #1 main wiring harness?
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The gear indicator has 7 wires. 6 bundled with a matching socket and a blue wire to operate the neutral light.
Those are cheaper than the ones I bought. Why not buy both. Then get a wiring diagram so you will be sure everything is correct as you go.
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Coyote wrote:The gear indicator has 7 wires. 6 bundled with a matching socket and a blue wire to operate the neutral light.
Those are cheaper than the ones I bought. Why not buy both. Then get a wiring diagram so you will be sure everything is correct as you go.

I called and the #1 harness is now $149.95, but he had what he described as the "extension cord" for the gear indicator. It was used, so I bought it for $35.

I'm still looking for a #1 harness and the #2 on the motorcycle isn't in that bad of shape I think it will work.

Another option is the used #1 harnesses he had for $75.

Really nice guy and he gave me some tips on possible shorts.
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Blokhead wrote:You don't see this mentioned much on this site, but its very common with Kaw triples. Sometimes the oil injection check valves will leak over time allowing the crankcases to partially fill with oil. When the bike is first started it will run OK till the oil gets warm, and diluted by the gas, then a large volume is sucked into the chamber, and it hydrolocks. It can also be caused by a leaking carb float that allows fuel to puddle in the case. Neither is compressible. And that cylinder doesn't actually have to be firing for this to occur. When it locks the rod usually gets bent.
If you remove the SRIS valves near the bottom front of the case you can drain anything that has accumulated in there.

Ok, I will, I just read about the SRIS.

Were are the SRIS valves at?
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Right here;

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You can plug these up if you like. I soldered mine closed.
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Blokhead wrote:Right here;

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You can plug these up if you like. I soldered mine closed.

Thanks for the pic man, that helps A LOT.
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Well, I got to work on the Motorcycle some more today and here are the updates.

1. I forgot to mention earlier that it doesn't have a fan, but has the mounts. I see other GT750s are the same. Mine is a 1975, so should it have a fan or not?

2. I got to the oil pump and the lines, do I have to remove the starter to get the lines off of the block?

3. The Piston all the way on the left (if your sitting on the bike) has a shiny ring in the middle, the rest of the piston has carbon on it. Almost looks like it was machined there. Should I be concerned about this?


Thanks for any help you can give me.
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The Dark Knight wrote:Well, I got to work on the Motorcycle some more today and here are the updates.

1. I forgot to mention earlier that it doesn't have a fan, but has the mounts. I see other GT750s are the same. Mine is a 1975, so should it have a fan or not?

2. I got to the oil pump and the lines, do I have to remove the starter to get the lines off of the block?

3. The Piston all the way on the left (if your sitting on the bike) has a shiny ring in the middle, the rest of the piston has carbon on it. Almost looks like it was machined there. Should I be concerned about this?


Thanks for any help you can give me.
:) 1. Your bike was not fitted with a fan from new,this was dispensed with by Suzuki fairly early into the production of the K model in most markets around the world,but you could at one stage buy the fan if you wanted one as a spare part.

2.If you want to make it easy to take of the lines,yes remove starter motor,you'll also have to remove the water bypass hose connector to allow you to slide the starter motor from position,what ever you do "DON'T" use compressed air on the oil lines to clean/check them internally!!!

3. That shiny ring in the centre of the left piston could be a "hot spot" caused by the wrong heat range plug,or that cylinder running lean,could be about too burn a hole through the top of the piston!!
investigate the cause....As soon as possible :cry:

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GT750Battleship wrote: :) 1. Your bike was not fitted with a fan from new,this was dispensed with by Suzuki fairly early into the production of the K model in most markets around the world,but you could at one stage buy the fan if you wanted one as a spare part.

2.If you want to make it easy to take of the lines,yes remove starter motor,you'll also have to remove the water bypass hose connector to allow you to slide the starter motor from position,what ever you do "DON'T" use compressed air on the oil lines to clean/check them internally!!!

3. That shiny ring in the centre of the left piston could be a "hot spot" caused by the wrong heat range plug,or that cylinder running lean,could be about too burn a hole through the top of the piston!!
investigate the cause....As soon as possible :cry:

Cheers,
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Hey Battleship,

I figured that is what caused the "ring" with the piston. I will check out the carbs to see if they caused that cylinder to be lean. The ring on the piston top isn't very deep at all, how deep should it be before I am concerned?

Thanks for you help
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:( Be very concerned,do not put the bike back together until you have this sorted with the piston!!
What grade plugs are you running should be NGK7ES or 8ES depending on the model you have?
They can HOLE a piston real quick,check the carbs by all means...but the plugs are the main suspects,wrong heat range etc....lack of oil delivery is not good...I'll go back & read your earlier posts to get some back ground on what you've done so far..
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Well, I have been very busy lately, so I haven't got to work much on the motorcycle. I have bought all the wiring I need and I'm cleaning the carbs now.

I have a ultra sonic cleaner in my shop, so they should turn out pretty nice.

I plan to post pics soon.
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